After getting all my gear back (some time really early Monday morning, according to the emails in my Inbox), I reinstalled WoW, BC, & Wrath, then commenced patching, and after about 4-5 hours I was logging in to play. (Despite having DSL my WoW patch DL speeds are not terribly fast. "Why, you seem to be behind a Firewall!" the Downloader will report, as if that's a bad thing)
My first Heroic on Monday night brought my Emblem of Frost total to 30 (I got all my badges & emblems back, praise Orion!) and I promptly spent them all on the i264 Libram of Three Truths.
Tonight I queued up for another random Heroic and found myself in the rather fun (at least I think so) Culling of Stratholme. I've done this one a few times on Heroic and seen a couple of Reins of the Bronze Drake drop. Some people Pass while others gleefully Roll, so I take my queue from those who do. When people roll Need I roll Need. Other times they'll roll Greed so I'll follow suit. On tonight's Run the Drake was mentioned just once as we ran through, with someone asking if we planned to do it. (Barring running out of time I wasn't aware it was optional, but apparently it is.)
We got to the Corruptor and killed him within the 25 minutes so naturally he dropped the Drake. Someone said Gratz and the first three rolls were Passes. I sat there watching the screen for a few seconds. I didn't need the Drake. I wanted it, but I didn't Need it. The fourth player rolled Greed so I followed his lead and hit Greed as well. He rolled low, I rolled high, and with that I had myself a new Epic Flying Mount.
As the group moved on to Mal'Ganis I was almost expecting to be booted from the party for being a Ninja, but it didn't happen. The player who lost the Roll never said anything, neither in Party Chat nor Tells, and if he had I was prepared to hand it over to him, even though I'd won the Roll. Not because I didn't care to be labeled a Ninja, simply because I didn't really need the Mount. But nothing more was said and we moved on and defeated Mal'Ganis.
The first time I got the Culling of Time achievement BIL and Steve congratulated me and asked if I'd won the Drake. When I told them I'd rolled Greed like the others they were stunned. "Dude! You Need Roll that!" they said to me, but I didn't feel right Need rolling on a Vanity item when others were just Greed Rolling.
Now I'd won the Vanity item with a Greed Roll and I still wondered if I'd done the right thing. Sometimes I think I'm a little too much like Melvin Smiley.
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I find I only roll Need on stuff I can immediately equip and upgrade with. I think your solution is reasonable. Congrats!
As far as I remember, the CoT Drake is a 100% drop if you manage to take out that boss in time, thus its not really a "need" item. You could go back and run it again, and as long as the boss gets killed in time, it will drop again.
Now... the Baron's Mount that has a 0.something% drop rate in Stratholme - now that is a "need" roll.
NO worries, you're not a ninja. If you had needed when he had greeded, that would have been a ninja.
Heck, I bet that guy was planning to do just that: why else did he wait so long, only to greed because he chickened out before you did?
Screw that. No, you didn't NEED the mount, but neither did anyone else. A mount is an item that is ALWAYS rolled need on. Sure, it could be the case that the guy didn't yet have ANY flying mount and he "needed" it more than you, but that is overly complicated. When you are trying to decide between need or greed you should ONLY be asking "do *I* need this or not?" Other people's needs are not to come into play. If you NEED it, need roll it. it is that simple. With that in mind, you ALWAYS need roll a mount you don't have.
If you rolled need and he rolled greed and then he started bitching because he didnt have ANY flying mount, well ... he should have rolled need.
If you both roll need and he sobs about not having any flying mount yet, then you can decide later to trade the reigns or not.
However, in the interest of keeping the group rolling along, ALWAYS need if you need it. Things can be traded after the fact if need be.
Back in the day (a few months ago - seems longer) - the big point of contention was Frost Orbs. Folks from my realm just naturally rolled "Greed" on them. I always felt that this was just and right even though one could say that it made just as much sense for everyone to roll "need".
I think for Moon Guard folks rolling need on something like a Frost Orb felt ... rude. That said, I don't know any of them that would have felt bad about rolling need on the bronze drake. Something about the immediacy and importance of the drop that elevates it.
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