I've refrained from commenting on this, mainly because my comments are not that which would "go with the flow", but I've decided I'm going to speak up anyway.
I'm very pro-gun. I see these shootings not as excuses or wake-up calls that we need to tighten gun laws or remove guns from society, but as wake-up calls that we need to be more aware of our fellow man (& woman), we need to become familiar with the signs that someone might be building up to become a "shooter", and we need to be willing to step in and get involved (by alerting the appropriate authorities) if we do suspect a shooting is a distinct possibility in the near future.
In 1996 Martin Bryant allegedly shot and killed 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania. I was living in Australia at the time, self-employed as a gardener for various clients, including an elderly lady from my church who lived on her family farm just outside town. One of my self-appointed duties was to cull the rabbits that were tearing up her property, so with my client's permission I'd visit her property late in the evening and eliminate a few of the rabbits with my trusty shotgun. After the Port Arthur incident the Aussie government decided shotguns like mine were dangerous (and they were, as many a rabbit found out) so they implemented what they called a Buyback plan to buy back a majority of privately owned firearms. Essentially confiscation with compensation. Despite many, many guns being removed from the public, shootings still occurred. There hasn't been another "Port Arthur" incident since, but that's not surprising considering that in Australia's 200 year history that was the only one of its kind. What has happened though it that a college student legally gained access to a handgun (an extremely highly regulated firearm in Australia) and shot several of his fellow students, while another fellow got hold of a sword, again a highly regulated item in Australia, and ran amok stabbing people.
Easy access to guns does not facilitate these kind of activities. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold had several plans for obtaining firearms, and were apparently willing to obtain them through illegal channels if necessary. George Weller didn't even need a firearm to kill 9 people in Santa Monica in 2006.
Then there's Joel Myrick, who was the assistant principal of Pearl Middle School in Mississippi in 1997, when Luke Woodham shot and killed two girls, one of who was his girlfriend. Luke then shot and wounded 7 other students before starting to cross the road to the Junior High School where he claimed he intended to shoot more students. That was when Myrick finally returned after running 1/4 mile to his car and back to get his legally owned and stored handgun. Myrick prevented any further deaths by holding Luke at gunpoint until the police arrived.
The anti-gun people like to say a law is worthy if it saves just one life. Using their logic, the law that allowed Myrick to legally own and store a handgun in his car is also worthy. Lives were saved that day because a private citizen was armed. That's enough proof right there that guns save lives. I only need to reference one case because it's all that's needed.
The truth is if someone is determined to get a gun, they will. If someone is determined to kill someone, unless they're stupid, it's almost impossible to prevent them from doing so.
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Hmmm not sure if I agree with you there good buddy!
It's pretty basic math to understand in there are more dangerous items around, more people are going to fall victim to them.
Put more tacks on the ground and more people will stand on them etc.
Also, what most no-gun-owning cultures worry about when they see the US is all the ridiculously over-armed 'good ole boys' who seem to be a prime example of your stereotypical irresponsible gun owners. Such a Gung-Ho attitude is quite disturbing when paired with a lethal weapon.
If gun owners were all well trained and serious about treating weapons with respect then things might look better.
I totally agree, Lyndon. Every barrel of apples will have a few nuts in it. The police force are a prime example, both Queensland Cops and the LAPD, just to name two. In the midst of the people charged with upholding the law, with serving and protecting the public, are a corrupt few who abuse their power and cause their brethren to be tarred with the same brush.
The same holds true with gun owners. We have a few nut jobs who get most of the publicity and media air time, causing most people to think all gun owners are nut jobs.
Now while a gun does make it easier for these idiots to cause damage on the scale they did, unless you turn the world into a Draconian Police State (Police World?) and take away everyone's rights, it's impossible to remove all guns from society. All you can do is turn all gun owners into criminals, including those who yesterday were law abiding gun owners.
Just as it's currently impossible to remove every gun from society, it's impossible to prevent incidents like VA Tech happening, because if someone is truly determined to get a gun they will. Let's face it, they're planning to commit murder, an already illegal act. Making it illegal for them to obtain or possess a gun won't change their mind.
I see this whole reaction as people missing the point of what was wrong with this kid and why he got to where he was mentally.
He had psych evaluations and, I heard, was listed as a danger to himself. So, logically, they prescribed accupuncture. With that kind of treatment suggested, why the hell would anyone take it seriously enough to actually list on his public record somewhere that he shoudln't be sold guns? Also, it came out later that he was picked on a bullied. Thank you for proving my point that college is high school with more homework!
Yes, folks, it's the gun's fault. Totally and completely. Not a failure in the medical and pychotherapy world or any other authority figure whom may have seen a violent trend in him. Not a failure in the maturity of his school mates or the actions of the police force after they lost him for 2 hours. It's the GUN'S fault.
Riiight.
Thanks for making my life in college more miserable. Now I have to listen to the administration discuss things like putting metal detectors in every building on my campus. In the mean time, they'll continue ignore the real problem: the fact that 6 people got mugged in 6 days, plus two at gun point, plus 2 that got mugged and raped at gun point. All within 3 weeks time.
:end rant
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